The Future Of Reasoning

Publisert 28. april. 2021
This video was created in partnership with Bill Gates and was inspired by his new book “How to Avoid a Climate Disaster.” Find out more here: gatesnot.es/3t1u93B
LINKS TO LEARN MORE:
my twitter: tweetsauce
my instagram: electricpants
The extended mind thesis: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_mind_thesis
MinuteEarth video on how greenhouse gasses work: nolong.info/show/pLqoqICfntOriZs/video.html
Molecule animations from molcalc.org
"The Enigma of Reason" by Hugo Mercier and Dan Sperber: www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674237827
"Do You Know Yourself?" Mind Field S1E8 nolong.info/show/k5ignm9-qbKBiZ8/video.html
Hyperobects:
www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/hyperobjects
nolong.info/show/dNd1r3CuicFie6s/video.html
Jonathan Haidt's famous "emotional dog" paper about moral reasoning:
www.rudygarns.com/class/neuroethics/lib/exe/fetch.php/a/haidt.2001.emotional_dog_rational_tail.pdf
Cognitive Niche: www.pnas.org/content/107/Supplement_2/8993#:~:text=In%20biology%2C%20a%20%E2%80%9Cniche%E2%80%9D,cause%2Dand%2Deffect%20reasoning%20and
Lottocracy:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition
www.coursera.org/lecture/revolutionary-ideas-borders-elections-constitutions-prisons/lecture-7-4-0-the-lottocracy-VL69f
Visual system diagram by RATZNIUM en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_system#/media/File:ERP_-_optic_cabling.jpg
SONGS USED
in order of appearance
all from audionetwork unless otherwise noted
Chillout Lounge
The Crescent
Political Manoeuvres
Pagan Forest Choir
Moon Men (Jake Chudnow)
Glowing Moon 3
Lazy Daze
Innate Knowledge
Houston Keys
Moon Men (Jake Chudnow)
Chillout Lounge
They're Coming
I Can See the Sea
Mysterious Island
Urban Lands
For Leah (Jake Chudnow)
I'll Send You A Post Card _ What My Nervous Stomach Sounds Like (Jake Chudnow)
Going Down (Jake Chudnow)
Lonely Night 2
Turquoise (Jake Chudnow)

Kommentarer

  • i like this topic so much, i watch this video more than 5 time

  • 6:40 That was the most "conservative" reasoning for a "liberal" movement I have ever heard.

  • ⚡️Techno Cyber Sapienz💠🪐

  • tell that to israel and palestain

  • You really want to learn about the mind, go watch Bob Proctor. This Bill Gates shill is the NOlong version of MSM. He'll heave information at you, but provide nothing of real value.

  • When was the last time.... you slept?

  • Mary is divorced

  • Clearly this channel and it's mouthpiece has sold out to climate propaganda. Unsubscribe from this nonsense and subscribe to real science.

  • Realistically a better model would be one employing lotteries for certain positions, but where the foundation of the system as a whole is people deliberating as a group about issues, and working as a group to tackle problems and make policy.

  • Everyone who disliked the video all went to watch Ben Shapiro

  • You lost me at bill covid gates.

  • The thing that has been frustrating me is that what is life, what's the goal of it and what's after enlightenment?!

  • 9:45 exactly what the girl that thinks i'm gay was thinking. BTW i'm not gay She said I looked gay, :(

  • We reason better than other species because we have complex speech so we can teach and learn about it. Uneducated or those lacking intelligence are not going to have the best reasoning.

  • People vote their temperament.

  • Does anyone else feel like they've seen this video before or is it just me? It hit me between 19:00 and 20:00

  • This really should be played in schools.

  • Am i the only one that is wondering why is Michael is looking towards his left and right? Like is he reading a script?

  • Why isn't there an order of operation in writing like there is in math?

  • Too bad he works for bill gates.

  • A partnership with Bill Gates? So this entire video is compromised. Great.

  • You explaining that people don't consciously examine people's appearance to determine their mood is not correct for me at least. Then again I'm autistic so kinda needed.

  • I watched this video 1 week before it was released

  • Man, I love your videos!

  • Just commenting to boost the NOlong engagement algorithm, so maybe more people will see this video. :)

  • I like the idea of the Lottocracy, however i want to challenge your reasoning behind it. In the video you envisioned a group of people chosen at random to decide certain matters of politics. But to get them to make an informed decision they need some instance to inform them about the matter at hand. But this information will have to come from other people who will be able to influence the decisionmaking. This problem can be observed in the US-american juridical system. Usually the person with the rhetorically better attorney will win in court, not the person who is factually right.

  • This seems very political to me That lottery government idea is definitely something to reason about though

  • Lottocracy? Really? We have a fundamental problem of religious ideology to solve first, without which Lottocracy will end up being a slaughter fest

  • An antidote to all of the negative outlooks... www.goodreads.com/book/show/52452808-ten-global-trends-that-every-smart-person-needs-to-know

  • Ludopsychohyperchronoentropia - the distance in time between two consecutive Vsauce videos

  • Me after the video: cool, can’t wait to see people thoughts and opinions in the comments! The comments: lol recommendations am I right

  • I liked the parts of the video that talked about how human reasoning works and the possible evolutionary reasons for its quirks, but I feel something is missing from this discussion: the scientific method. The enlightenment and the "age of reason" it awakened placed great emphasis on the scientific method, which put our theories and reasons to the test by comparing it to our observations of reality. This has proved to be more fruitful than debating our reasons with each other ad nauseam. When I complain, "if only people are more rationale," my complaint is that people are refusing to acknowledge easily verifiable observations or the results of scientific experiments. This goes beyond confirmation bias, it is tribalism; they refuse to accept any evidence that goes against the beliefs or practices of "their tribe" even when challenged. More discussion is not necessarily going to improve their reasons. More empathy might help, but on a global scale, compassion fatigue sets in. I am not sure how society is going to handle hyper-objects in the coming decades. I am hopeful; though I have no reason.

  • Who needs reason when you got a bill gates sponsership?

  • When’s Michael running for President then?

  • 14.30 only sheldon from big bang theory can reason like that.

  • Thanks for a great discussion. You made many good points. However, let me make a few remarks: 1. First, social reasoning as an evolutionary process doesn't need to be contradictory to individual reasoning, in the sense that the latter is just a sophisticated and well trained, well practiced, form of the former. In other words, "scientists" are just people who come up with much better reasons in their respective fields of expertise than normal people. As such, it would be very valuable to pay attention to them and consider their claims. 2. Yes, we often go from conclusion to reason to generalization, but there *is* a point to this: namely the generalization. A.K.A. "learning from mistakes." This process helps us make better decisions next time and become wiser people. For example, you might decide X is a liar, and then produce some reasons for why you thought that. But then, if you do this every time, you gradually form better and better lie detectors and the process might help you more reasonably evaluate someone's character as you become wiser. In other words, a "philosophical" person does "inter-social" as well as "intra-social" reasoning (applying "social reasoning" principles to one's own thoughts). 3. In these modern times, I hope we can do better than "election/reasoning by simplistic lottery." Why NOT use the many scientists and great minds that we have? I find that people often know what's good for them even if they are bad at scientific reasoning themselves: for example, someone isn't a doctor, but he still knows how to choose the best doctor out there and why they should listen to a good doctor. When you're truly sick, many of your biases against science magically disappear! Perhaps using internet and modern technology we can much better connect all people with scientists and "technocrats" and use algorithmic (maybe like the PageRank algorithm??) to pass on decisions to the right people knowledgeable to handle them? Perhaps we can find ways to respect "technocracy" and democracy at the same time?

  • I hope Michael writes a book at some point.

  • Why do we think we are real life how do we know that cartoons aren’t the real life I mean we don’t really know like for all we know there could be millions and billions of copies of us or we could be just brains floating in space just playing fake memories or we don’t exist at all it’s weird how this all works I mean we are already in the future we have robots that will soon be like us and so much more things but what if there are more universes out there with more galaxies and more planets but idk this is just my theory

  • Already feeling like an ancient

  • what a stupid video

  • That INTRO

  • I legit enjoyed this

  • This video is when my thoughts met words! Hey Michael... It's our "MEME". REMEMBER! PS: Richard Dawkins' MEMES

  • His bit about assessing that somebody is upset, and how we don't really reason our way to that conclusion.. anyone else feel called out as abnormal? That's exactly what I do. I was horrible at any amount of social interaction until I'd studied the hell out of people in exactly that way. Guess there's a reason I've been recommended to go through a professional autism assessment lol

  • "This video was created in partnership with Bill Gates" Big yikes.

  • WHAT I THINK IS SOME R SAYS TAMATO OR SOME R SAYS TAMATO. XD

  • We went from 0 to MGS2 real fuckin quick boys

  • I'm on the autism spectrum, so the part about how you don't consciously think about recognizing emotions is interesting to me. There have been many occasions when, after a third person leaves, someone who I'm conversing with says "wow, they were in a bad mood." And then since I didn't pick up on the nonverbal signals and the person didn't directly say anything that would imply that they are angry, I ask "what makes you say that?" And if I press them on their answers, pointing out where they don't actually know for sure each time, they invariably end up saying something like "I don't know, it just feels like they were in a bad mood."

  • This is a video where i think Vsauce evolved into a channel that is just for fun education to one that mathamatically educates people about real world issues.

  • Yes Michael the big techno-salvation is coming, too bad most of us aren't invited. At least you got your ticket, say hi to Bill from me.

  • Nice to know I have some complex tofu in my head

  • Twitter

  • And he associates with the criminal Gates.

  • Lottocracy could be implemented with blockchain

  • Don’t fart to hard

  • hey Micheal! Vsauce here. ocd. you probably noticed my intro was different right? well thats ocd. end of video.

  • Brouwer is relevant to this discussion. The entire philosophy of constructivism which states that math is a social languange connects heavily to the idea presented in this video. Indeed, using this philosophy has been highly beneficial to CS specifically for creating a math that is very good at being computable.

  • i love you

  • 14:15 ppl with alexithymia: michael, i don't think so.

  • “In collaboration with Bill Gates and his team” is a real quick way to lose credibility when it comes to climate alarmism

  • Humanity progressed backwards a bit. Instead of living in a democracy, we live in a republic. I would love to live in a democracy, a society where we were all much more reasonable.

  • "What IF decisions were made not by politicians alone, but at least occasionally by groups of actual citizens representing differences in thought, who were brought together and paid for their time to learn from experts and then deliberate on an assigned issue until a conclusion was reached, or, at the least, a recommendation?"

  • Great video, bad conclusion. A lottocracy seems like a terrible idea.

  • woah

  • Michael! you just killed a man! *distant gasps* Vsauce: Or did i?

  • Best video you've done so far imho

  • My friend and I agree.

    • “Human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted.” ― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World

  • So...some form of anarchy?

  • Maybe elephants arent awesome and Michael isnt an elephant but micheal definitely is awesome

  • Good news. No need to use reason or logic anymore. A progressive informed me and hundreds of thousands of other people that 'reason' and 'logic' are tools of oppression invented by the white man to force women and minorities to fight on their terms. Thus, anger and outrage are the best tools to use when making decisions and analyzing facts and information. Yeah. That really happened. Our world is in serious trouble.

  • Funny how reasoning is dieing and liberalism is on the rise. Hmmmmmmm

  • Where you been my guy? I've really been craving a good well thought out, well edited, and well wrote intellectual video that leaves you with more questions then it answers due to the unavoidable consequences of someone who is capable of free thinking and is extremely curious in a good and healthy way can produce. Ugh Thank You for the upload. Can you tell I actually needed some good old common sense in this world that seems to have all logic being slowly used up with no fit replacement anywhere in site. I'm only 30 but I am extremely concerned with the way were headed and for the first time in my life I am unable or unwilling to find the hope that has gotten me by in the past.

  • I am blown away by how objective this video is. Great job, Michael!

  • It would fucking blow my mind if you opened up a video with "Hey! Michael! Vsauce here!"

  • This is bullshit!

  • :}

  • ... and what did Bill Gates have to do with this?

  • Can we just look at the fact that his sub count is holy 16.9 million subs

  • Teaming up with bill gates SMH

  • To whoever sees this 8 years from now: Yes, I thought it was an inactive channel too

  • That is... One great mind.

  • He's obviously talking about fox and trump

  • the way he pulled that book out of no where, so cool.

  • Whelp, you convinced me! Jokes aside, I think this is the best Vsauce video to date, and I've likely seen all of them.

  • You know you are high AF when vsauce makes sense

  • Awesometer*

  • Please read my comment Vsause. Make a channel for short videos.It will be nice :)

  • "Hey Vsauce, Michael here!" 0:03

  • 14:48 ohhh took me a second to realize that this is ambiguously phrased. when he says "why do you think they're upset" he's saying "what is your reason for concluding that they're upset" and not "what, in your opinion, might have caused them to be upset"

  • I find it difficult to trust a man who once was involved in the making of computer viruses which he developed fixes for after the fact (and charged a price for), and who is now involved in the manufacture of actual medical drugs.

    • I wish the book were free. I'd have fewer misgivings about any motives of his. But alas, he's a staunch defender of IP. Funny that he'd partner up with Vsauce against lone reasoners, yet his entire life has been the upholding of lone entrepreneurs, (i.e. intellectual property). First proprietary software, and now proprietary medicine.

  • what is this bill gates extension

  • Loved this and watched every second.. Bravo! Literally had a conversation about this very topic with my wife who shares very different viewpoints than I. We then watched this together and had to fight the urge from both of our sides to say how your points strengthened or weakened our own. I will absolutely watch this again

  • this is why I subscribe!

  • Total bullshit!

    • Are you joking or are you serious? If it's the latter, care to elaborate

  • Beautiful, Michael

  • There's plenty of other people you could have chosen to work with that wasn't bill gates. Like, of all people you had to go for the kind of immoral greedy capitalist that continues to perpetuate the profit centered cause of our continued inaction in helping the climate. We can't just wait for a lottocracy to be tried out here and there so that our collective reasoning can finally lead to action, we need to get rid of the more tangible issue which is consumerism and infinite growth as a concept on a limited planet. Trying with futility to convince denialists that it IS happening certainly isn't getting us where we want to be so as to avoid climate disaster and the wealthy certainly don't need reasoning to get away with destroying our planet for profit.

    • @BoogerWall The fact that you replied alone makes it obvious that i'm not just talking to no one here. People should voice their opinion where it's relevant. i did watch the whole video and i liked the insight on human behavior it provided, but the conclusions drawn and the somewhat simplistic solution doesn't address many of the issues we face with our mode of production in general and the threat it poses to our climate. I spend much of my time hearing the opinions of others on this and they usually only provide market oriented solutions and other inadequate measures, if they were convincing then i wouldn't be here implying we do something about capitalism as a whole. Many have made the points Gates makes and he doesn't need to be a mentioned source when what he says is in such contradiction to what he does as a billionaire.

    • I'm sorry who are you pitching this to? Because as far I am concerned, I'm the only one who read your comment. If you really want to voice your opinion, maybe you could watch the whole video. It talks about compromise, it talks about consensus and reaching an idea we can all agree to. So if you really want to express what you think is to quote from your own words "a kind of immoral greedy capitalist" maybe you should stay in school and get the kind of group friend who is ready to challenge your ideas. Besides, how do you know that his theory in execution won't work. The man didn't get to his high status for nothing. He pondered over a plan, researched, observed places where some sollutions worked and wrote it all down neatly in a comprehensible text at your disposal. Plus this was one part of the video, it wasn't even the main focus.

  • id like to have a deliberation with the 7 thousand people who disliked this video and try to understand their reasoning.

    • First he just so happens to mention how great the status quo is in a video sponsered by bill gates(a lil sus imo could be nothing ig) and he dismissed the individual's ability to reason and pushes reason aside and the fact so many like that is crazy to me since last time the west decided to push reason away it fell into economic social and technological stagnation and i live in the west therfore naturally i would dislike that, so i press dislike.

    • you're funny, but to answer your question people really got mad at the part where he mentioned Bill Gates, calling him a capitalist that wants to make more money or something like that...

  • "Reason is, and only ought to be the slave of the passions" - David Hume

  • Okey Vsauce, this is pretty cool. How about some space video next? Pretty sure we all would appreciate it.. very much :)

  • If you want to avoid a climate disaster abolish the capitalist system, infinite growth and inequality ruin everything. 100 companies are responsible for 71% of climate change, a billionaire flying around the world, using NFTs etc. has more impact than many normal people. workers of the world unite! Anarcho communism is the best system for working together and solving this.

    • yeah nice solution with your meme ideology dilate tran

    • @BoogerWall Public transport and local infrastructure is better than cars, workers still make things that matter like medicine, what sort of resources do you want? what do you know so far about anarchism?

    • hmmm... if only there was some solutions backed up by reasoning... hmmm... By the way if you're some know it all where are your sources. I want to ask you exactly how this would benefit us and I want you to tell me how by removing these we can still live. I'm sorry, but who the fuck is gonna make my pans now hmm? what about medicine? Tf is gonna run my car in the morning?